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When Working on EL84/6BQ5 Tube Amps, You MUST know This about Pins One and Two!

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When Working on EL84/6BQ5 Tube Amps, You MUST know This about Pins One and Two!

Okay Gang, take a close look at these two side-by-side pics.  Do ya see the problem here?  On the left is the current pin designation for a EL84/6BQ5 output tube; what's connected to pin one?  Nothing!  Now, to the left is a detailed look at the way the EL84/6BQ5 tubes are wired on the vintage Kent amp I just had on the bench (read my last blog).  What???  Why are they sending the signal to PIN ONE of those tubes??!!  Don't they know that pin one goes to ... nothing??  Well ... let's talk about that!

El84 6BQ5 pin one two issue must know for vintage amps

The thing is, up until somewhere in the early 1980's EL84/6BQ5 tubes had pins one and two INTERNALLY TIED ... they BOTH went to grid one!  That was the original spec given to that model when it was birthed in 1949.  Why did manufacturers STOP including the internal tie between 1 &2?  Shoot, it seems nobody knows ... but it DID happen.  Personally,  I believe it was a result of the "free world" ceasing to manufacture vacuum tubes in the 1980s and all production moving to Soviet block countries and China.  Ever read those crazy owners manuals that accompany electronic devices manufactured and sold direct from China?  Stuff like "We glad purchase you our quality device.  It provide service many years excellence ..."  Yes, stuff really does get "lost in translation"!  And I feel that's the case with these tubes.  I can see the Soviets or Chinese scratching their heads and saying "Crazy Americans!  Why they attach two pins to same grid?  That CRAZY, we not do that!"

And that brings us to WHY did they do it anyway, right?  Well ... the thought was that it helped keep space between pins and minimize construction issues and make the tube sockets less congested and easier to work on (remember, electronic stuff was BIGGER then).  So what happens when you put a "modern" EL84 in an amp wired with the input going to pin one, as in the case of this Kent?  NOTHING, that's what.  To put it plainly, the signal stops there.  The easy solution is to just move the grid feed over to pin two, or as I did, just jumper pins 1 & 2 on the socket.  But, what about if the problem expresses itself the OTHER way around? What if a modern amp builder is unaware of the internal connection between pins 1 and 2 on vintage tubes and they use pin 1 on the socket as a tie point for the screen grid resistor? Needless to say, this doesn't end well for NOS tubes used in those amps.  If you are designing amps with EL84 power sections ... don't be that guy!  NOS EL84/6BQ5 sets cost a pretty penny these days.  Nuff said.
Wm Anderson
11/09/2018 4:49pm

Yep, the first tube amp I built was Knight-Kit KM-15 in 1966, and the kit had been around for a few years. Anyway, reviewing the schematic it shows the connection was at pin 2. So, by 1960 it was known by Allied, or they just got lucky!!

dbuckley_51252
04/02/2019 4:09am

1970 data book shows EL84 pin 1 as "internal connection". In 1959 data for the 6BQ5, pin 1 is internal connection, but actually connected to the cathode. I'm fairly sure that pin 1 has never been an official grid connection, and anyone any pin marked as IC for anything has been doing so outside of the published specs.

Thomas Hoglund
07/18/2020 11:51pm

Quick Q - if I jumper pins 1 & 2 together on my Kent, can I then use either modern or NOS EL84s in it?

Thanks

VAUGHN SKOW
07/19/2020 2:44pm

Quick Q - if I jumper pins 1 & 2 together on my Kent, can I then use either modern or NOS EL84s in it?

Yep! That's what I did!