Hot Rod Deluxe with G12C or G12C/S, anyone tried this combo? Opinions?
Hot Rod Deluxe with G12C or G12C/S
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I dont know about the Hot Rod Deluxe but I have a 84 Fender Concert 2 Omega modified that I put a G12C/S in and it is a great sounding speaker that I think would work well in any Fender combo needing a 12 inch speaker.
Do you tried it with a Strat? More chime than the ET65 in your opinion?
Haven't tried it ... but should be a match made in heaven! The smooth-cone version would impart a smokey tweed-era flavor ... which would be a good thing if that's what you are after! The standard G12 would sound very classic blackface era Fender.
Vaughn,
I'm trying to turn my HRDX into a decent jazz box (I know, wrong amp, but its all I have to work with) by changing out the tubes to improve clean headroom and am interested in the GC as i like the clean Fender sound. I like the idea if the G12C/s to smooth out the top end but in your blog you talk about it breaking early and im not looking for that. In the product description and sound bites it gives a different impression. What would be better for clarity on the clean channel the g12c or g12c/s? I like the idea if taming the highs but don't want it to break too early.
Thanks
christopher
Vaughn,
I'm trying to turn my HRDX into a decent jazz box (I know, wrong amp, but its all I have to work with) by changing out the tubes to improve clean headroom and am interested in the GC as i like the clean Fender sound. I like the idea if the G12C/s to smooth out the top end but in your blog you talk about it breaking early and im not looking for that. In the product description and sound bites it gives a different impression. What would be better for clarity on the clean channel the g12c or g12c/s? I like the idea if taming the highs but don't want it to break too early.
Thanks
christopher
Well ... for maximum: "clarity on the clean channel" ... I'd stick with the ribs ... The HRDX won't challenge a G12 much, though ... smooth or ribbed, so if the smokey, woody top is important to you, you should be fine with the smoothie.
BTW, here is my full blog on this:
http://wgs4.com/smooth-cone-vs-ribbed-cone-speakers
I have a HRDX with a G12C/S. i think it would work nicely for a clean jazz sound. It definitely warms this amp. And like Vaughn had mentioned, it does not break up early. It will hang with the clean headroom that this amp can provide.
Better than ET65 in your opinion?
Just put in the G12C/S and played for about an hour. This feedback is based off that as I still need to fully break her in.
The C/S definately softens the high end while still maintaining a robust upper-mid presence. Words that initially come to mind in describing this speaker played through an HRDX that has had the Eurotubes max headroom kit treatmenet are: soft and rounded. If the HRDX with the stock Eminence were a jagged rock with very sharp edges, then this spekaer has turned my HRDX into a smooth semi-polished stone (The ocean polished kind you find on a beach that feels good in your hands when you rub between your thumb and fingers). It still cuts with the high-mid but the harsh "pierce-ness" has been softened. This is perfect for getting that soft tone I'm looking for (Think Wes Montgommery), but she still can be punchy by compensating for the high end roll-off by bringing up the treble and using the bright switch though your still not going to get that piercing back. I think the physics of felt may be the culprit ;-)
Surprisingly, the roll-off of the high end that is usually present in the HRDX does not translate into hevy bottom/low-end. On the contrary, the speaker tightened up the low end compared to the stock Eminence that I replaced. Anyone with a HRDX knows that this amp has a heavy bottom (talk about bum-cakes...). Where I used to keep my jazz setting at Treble-0, Bass-0, Mid-12 (try it if your HRDX is stock, its nice for some Pat Martino runs). I now have her set at Treble-6, Bass-4, Mid 7.
Im looking forward to experiementing more with the speaker as it has really opened up the capabilities of the HRDX and look forward to hearing how it sounds in a big band setting. I'd like to try this set-up out with a telecaser as I think it would match well as long as you are expecting a tamed high-end.
Added note: For reference guitar is a stock 1986 Ibanez AM-70 with IBZ pickups. It's a small bodied 335 type with about a 14" lower bout. This was my first guitar and will probably stay my only guitar until my hands fall off.